The podcast Dialogue with a Teenager

Text

Audio

Podcasts

The podcast is recorded in Russian, with transcripts also published in Russian.
Send your questions and suggestions to&nbsp;<a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org">openmuseum@garagemca.org</a><a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org"> </a>Garage Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca">https://t.me/garagemca</a><a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca"> </a>Garage Inclusive Programs Department Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/Without_illusions">https://t.me/Without_illusions</a>

Episode 1

The podcast is recorded in Russian, with transcripts also published in Russian.
Send your questions and suggestions to&nbsp;<a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org">openmuseum@garagemca.org</a><a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org"> </a>Garage Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca">https://t.me/garagemca</a><a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca"> </a>Garage Inclusive Programs Department Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/Without_illusions">https://t.me/Without_illusions</a>
18+

Episode 2

Episode 3

Episode 4

Episode 5

Inclusive Programs Department presents <a href="//cdn-ec-static.garagemca.org/storage/tinymce_asset/4/4/4454/file-c1fb01b6-8148-45b1-bd8c-ace79464c632.pdf" target="_blank">a&nbsp;collection of&nbsp;articles called Dialogue with a&nbsp;Teenager</a>. The collection brings together projects on&nbsp;working with teenagers that were organized by&nbsp;the department in&nbsp;2022.
Masha Shchekochikhina Team member of&nbsp;Inclusive Programs Department at&nbsp;Garage Museum of&nbsp;Contemporary Art Compiling editor
Compiling this collection was an&nbsp;incredibly long and complex process, but as&nbsp;the editor I&nbsp;thought it&nbsp;important to&nbsp;tell the reader about&nbsp;it. This book is&nbsp;published by&nbsp;Inclusive Programs Department, although it&nbsp;is&nbsp;not connected to&nbsp;the broadly accepted understanding of&nbsp;the term inclusion and most of&nbsp;the materials are not linked to&nbsp;the inclusivity agenda. How did that happen?
In&nbsp;August 2015, Inclusive Programs Department appeared at&nbsp;Garage Museum of&nbsp;Contemporary&nbsp;Art. Its main aim was to&nbsp;adapt the exhibition space and public events for viewers with disabilities: blind and partially sighted people, deaf and hard of&nbsp;hearing people and people with developmental disabilities. Over the next three years the department published three methodology handbooks for working with visitors with disabilities. The three handbooks had the overall title Experiencing the Museum, which was a&nbsp;tag for all of&nbsp;the professional programs organized by&nbsp;Inclusive Programs Department. However, by&nbsp;the time the third handbook was published, the department was involved in&nbsp;a&nbsp;much wider range of&nbsp;activities, including programs for visitors with experience of&nbsp;migration, support for digital accessibility, researcher into diversity, the new ethics, and stigma, and also projects on&nbsp;preventing the spread of&nbsp;HIV. While we&nbsp;were working on&nbsp;the latter projects, this collection unexpectedly appeared.&nbsp;
The scale of&nbsp;the HIV epidemic in&nbsp;Russia and the stereotypes around the virus were of&nbsp;interest to&nbsp;a&nbsp;number of&nbsp;Museum staff from various departments. The aim of&nbsp;this joint project was to&nbsp;research HIV as&nbsp;a&nbsp;socio-cultural phenomenon. As&nbsp;we&nbsp;got deeper into the issue, we&nbsp;realized that almost everything should be&nbsp;an&nbsp;object of&nbsp;our research: from official documents that regulated doctors&rsquo; practice to&nbsp;questions of&nbsp;education, upbringing, and family relationships. And this was what led to&nbsp;the project Dialogue with a&nbsp;Teenager, which ran throughout 2022 and included an&nbsp;eponymous podcast, a&nbsp;series of&nbsp;meetings with parents of&nbsp;teenagers, and the book that you are now reading.
Why did I&nbsp;think it&nbsp;was important to&nbsp;tell you this convoluted story? The fact is&nbsp;that this (almost) detective story about how the collection appeared is&nbsp;a&nbsp;clear demonstration of&nbsp;how difficult it&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;define inclusion and the fields it&nbsp;resides&nbsp;in. Today, the staff of&nbsp;Inclusive Programs Department&mdash;Luda Luchkova, Asel Rashidova, Sonya Lukyanova, Alina Zhekamukhova, Lera Shparlo, and I&mdash;are inclined to&nbsp;leave the definition of&nbsp;inclusion open-ended in&nbsp;order to&nbsp;allow it&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;edited and to&nbsp;incorporate more and more new aspects. One of&nbsp;the general definitions that we&nbsp;stick to&nbsp;is&nbsp;the following. Inclusion is&nbsp;dialogue between various people, it&nbsp;is&nbsp;attention and care, considerate relationships, and the willingness to&nbsp;listen, and also the willingness to&nbsp;accept that your interlocutor may refuse to&nbsp;speak; it&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;variety of&nbsp;views and opinions and their equal representation. This is&nbsp;why this collection is&nbsp;not the fourth methodological handbook from Inclusive Programs Department but a&nbsp;collection of&nbsp;ideas about how to&nbsp;find a&nbsp;common language.&nbsp;
The collection is&nbsp;in&nbsp;two parts: &laquo;The Teenager, the Museum, and Inclusion. What Happens When They Meet?&raquo; and &laquo;What Does the Museum Have to&nbsp;Do&nbsp;With Sex Education?&raquo; The first part is&nbsp;about teenagers and being a&nbsp;teenager, and also about how we&nbsp;gathered this knowledge. In&nbsp;this sense, the first part will be&nbsp;of&nbsp;interest to&nbsp;adults (if, of&nbsp;course, the opposition &laquo;adult&ndash;teenager&raquo; makes any sense) who interact with teenagers and aim to&nbsp;better understand their teenage interlocutors and also to&nbsp;museum staff, since each of&nbsp;the materials includes a&nbsp;narrative about how and by&nbsp;whom it&nbsp;was put together. The title of&nbsp;this part makes it&nbsp;clear that as&nbsp;well as&nbsp;the theme of&nbsp;being a&nbsp;teenager, it&nbsp;includes materials about designing museum programs for teenagers and about how to&nbsp;talk to&nbsp;teenagers about otherness, sometimes without mentioning the theme directly. So&nbsp;the first part reveals one of&nbsp;the aspects of&nbsp;the story of&nbsp;how the collection came about: it&nbsp;answers the question why the collection Dialogue with a&nbsp;Teenager is&nbsp;being published by&nbsp;Inclusive Programs Department, even though staff from other departments at&nbsp;Garage were involved, as&nbsp;were people from outside the museum world, and also explains why the collection is&nbsp;a&nbsp;continuation of&nbsp;the series of&nbsp;methodological handbooks but is&nbsp;not called Experiencing the Museum and is&nbsp;not a&nbsp;handbook as&nbsp;such.
The material in&nbsp;the second part references another aspect of&nbsp;the appearance of&nbsp;the collection, research into the HIV epidemic in&nbsp;Russia. Here there are texts about comprehensive sex education, including many sub-themes: from establishing trusting relationships within the family to&nbsp;safety and care for oneself and one&rsquo;s health.
To&nbsp;conclude, I&nbsp;would like to&nbsp;note that this collection is&nbsp;a&nbsp;search for answers to&nbsp;the question of&nbsp;how we&nbsp;can be&nbsp;more careful and attentive in&nbsp;relation to&nbsp;each other. It&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;cross-section that allows us&nbsp;to&nbsp;trace what has changed regarding the idea of&nbsp;inclusion and how to&nbsp;design museum programs and events. I&nbsp;hope that this book will prompt consideration not only about the theme of&nbsp;dialogue with teenagers but also with each other.

Dialogue with a Teenager: A Collection of Articles

The podcast is recorded in Russian, with transcripts also published in Russian.
Send your questions and suggestions to&nbsp;<a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org">openmuseum@garagemca.org</a><a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org"> </a>Garage Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca">https://t.me/garagemca</a><a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca"> </a>Garage Inclusive Programs Department Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/Without_illusions" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/Without_illusions">https://t.me/Without_illusions</a>
<a href="https://garagemca.org/programs/inclusive-programs/diversity-and-inclusion/podkast-dialog-s-podrostkom-vtoroy-sezon-vypusk-1-pozdravlyaem-vy-zumer-podcast-dialogue-with-a-teenager-second-season-issue-1-congratulations-you-are-a-buzzer" target="_blank" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="internal-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://garagemca.org/programs/inclusive-programs/diversity-and-inclusion/podkast-dialog-s-podrostkom-vypusk-1-chem-zanyatsya-podrostku-v-muzee">Podcast's transcript</a>

The podcast is recorded in Russian, with transcripts also published in Russian.
Send your questions and suggestions to&nbsp;<a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org">openmuseum@garagemca.org</a><a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org"> </a>Garage Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca">https://t.me/garagemca</a><a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca"> </a>Garage Inclusive Programs Department Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/Without_illusions">https://t.me/Without_illusions</a>
<a href="https://garagemca.org/ru/programs/inclusive-programs/diversity-and-inclusion/podkast-dialog-s-podrostkom-vtoroy-sezon-vypusk-2-s-kem-druzhit-kogo-lyubit-podcast-dialogue-with-a-teenager-second-season-issue-2" target="_blank" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="internal-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://garagemca.org/programs/inclusive-programs/diversity-and-inclusion/podkast-dialog-s-podrostkom-vypusk-1-chem-zanyatsya-podrostku-v-muzee">Podcast's transcript</a>

The podcast is recorded in Russian, with transcripts also published in Russian.
Send your questions and suggestions to&nbsp;<a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org">openmuseum@garagemca.org</a><a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org"> </a>Garage Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca">https://t.me/garagemca</a><a href="https://t.me/garagemca" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/garagemca"> </a>Garage Inclusive Programs Department Telegram channel:&nbsp;<a href="https://t.me/Without_illusions" data-ga-on="click" data-ga-event-category="navigation" data-ga-event-action="external-link-click" data-ga-event-label="https://t.me/Without_illusions">https://t.me/Without_illusions</a>

<section class="mceNonEditable text__section"><header class="mceEditable text__section__header">
<h3>DESCRIPTION</h3>
</header>
<article class="mceEditable text__section__content">
This is&nbsp;the podcast Dialogue with a&nbsp;Teenager by&nbsp;Garage Museum of&nbsp;Contemporary Art, hosted by&nbsp;Museum staff Masha Shchekochikhina and Marina Romanova.
The new season comprises five episodes in&nbsp;which the hosts discuss with teenagers, parents, educators, and psychologists how to&nbsp;build a&nbsp;dialogue with a&nbsp;young person, how to&nbsp;be&nbsp;caring and attentive, how to&nbsp;design programs for teens, and how to&nbsp;talk about complex topics such as&nbsp;health, coming of&nbsp;age, and sexuality.
The presenters of&nbsp;the podcast believe that there is&nbsp;no&nbsp;such thing as&nbsp;a&nbsp;&laquo;perfect&raquo; teenager. They aim to&nbsp;fight stereotypes and encourage understanding and mutual respect in&nbsp;a&nbsp;world of&nbsp;diversity.
The podcast is&nbsp;recorded in&nbsp;Russian, with transcripts also published in&nbsp;Russian.
Presenters and producers: Masha Shchekochikhina and Marina Romanova Editing and mixing: Evgenia Shuvalova and Dmitry Stepanov (@mosaichorse) Cover design: Darya Osipova
Send your questions and suggestions to&nbsp;<a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org">openmuseum@garagemca.org</a><a href="mailto:openmuseum@garagemca.org"> </a><a href="https://t.me/garagemca">Garage Telegram channel</a><a href="https://t.me/garagemca"> </a><a href="https://t.me/Without_illusions">Garage Inclusive Programs Department Telegram channel</a>
</article>
</section>

7-9 years 

10-14 years 

15-17 years 

0-6 years 

Architecture

Photo

Journalism

Psychology

Music

Books in English

Family

Garage Dance

Garage.txt

Garage Screen

Stream

Contemporary Critical Thought

Directors’ series

The Garage Journal

Exhibition catalogues

Research

Children's books

Garage + Ad Marginem

Seminars, Workshops and Training

Lectures & Talks

Concerts & Performances

Film Screenings

Exhibitions

Courses

Tours

Concerts & performances

Conferences

Exhibitions & projects

News

Interview

Talks

Lecture cycles

Conferences and seminars

Book presentations

Art Guide

Garage publishing program

Sponsors, patrons, and partners

Information partners

Garage publishing program in collaboration with Artguide Editions

Garage International Publishing Program

Library events

Books in english

Russian

English

Bilingual (russian/english)

Film programs

GARAGE Club

Programs for exhibitions

Events

Garage Live

Academic program

Grants

Field research

Patronship

Garage Studios

Mosaic Music

GARAGE Student

Film festival

Film distribution

Sign language

Mental disabilities

Migration

Audio description

Tactile models

Accessibility guide

Physical accessibility

GARAGE Individual

Digital accessibility

Diversity

Events at Garage

Garage publishing program and Strelka Press 

Video

Feature

Guide

GARAGE Individual +1

Research laboratories

Artistic research

Translation to russian sign language

Subtitles

Adapted tours

Quiet room

Translation to uzbek, tajik, and kyrgyz

GARAGE Premium

“We Treasure Our Lucid Dreams”

Space 1520

GARAGE Circle

Temporality

Disability

Affect

Overcoming

Body

Timelessness

Non-normative body

GARAGE Collectors Circle  

Experience of the other

Otherness

Developmental disabilities

Mental health

Trauma

Personal experience

Neural networks

Language

7-11 years

Plain language

Garage Café

The computer class schedule

Mediation

Oleg Baranov Going Down

Shelf of the Month. Theatrе

Publishing program page

Series of meetings with residents

Open call

Shelf of the Month. Cinema

Shelf of the Month. Modern Dance

Visitors in a wheelchair

Public programs

Free

Registration required

Free for exhibition ticket holders

Paid

Booking required

Booking via phone or email is required

Booking on reception is required

Off-site projects

Architecture and design

Supervision

Museology

Philosophy

Economy

Cinematography

Critical biography

Memoirs and diaries

For Garage card holders

For children

GARAGE + Ad Marginem

GARAGE PRO

Minima

Paperback

Hardcover

Hardcover with dust jacket

Book review

Professional programs

Video review

Garage publishing program in collaboration with Ad Marginem Press

Garage publishing program in collaboration with Ad Marginem Press. GARAGE PRO Series

Garage publishing program in collaboration with Ad Marginem Press. Minima Series

City tours

Exhibition tours

Seminars, workshops & training

Lectures & talks

Contact&nbsp;Us

Hours

Buy Tickets

GARAGE Card

Today at Garage

Odnoklassniki

Youtube

Telegram

Tiktok

Mailing list

Subscribe to our mailing list and get the latest news from Garage

Press Mailing List

To join our press mailing list, please include your email address in the field

For visitors

Hours and buy tickets

Address

Here we’ve put together <a href="/materials">materials</a> to help you get ready for a visit to the Museum or to take a deep dive into the current programs at Garage.

Garage Archive Commissions

Library

Studios

RAAN

Publications

Field Research

Research Laboratories

Grants and stipends

Garage Digital

Garage Academy

Toward the Source

An international online platform, initiated by Garage Museum of Contemporary Art, bringing together archives on Russian art from the postwar period to the present.

Russian Art Archive Network

The podcast Dialogue with a Teenager

DESCRIPTION

Stream

Tags

Share